Ithel "Gam" ab Ithel "Gam", arglwydd of Mostyn

Abt 1200 - Aft 1237  (38 years)

• Name	Ithel "Gam" ab Ithel "Gam"   [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
  Suffix	arglwydd of Mostyn
  Nickname	Gam
  Born	Abt 1200	of, Mostyn, Chwitffordd, Flintshire, Wales
  Christened	{Tribe: Edwin}
  Gender	Male
  Died	Aft 1237
  Person ID	I100010574	My Genealogy
  Last Modified	29 Dec 2012

  
  

  Father	"Hên" Ithel "Gam" ap Maredudd,   b. Abt 1150, of, Tegeingl cantref, Flintshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Family ID	F100008746	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Tibod ferch Rhirid,   b. Abt 1200, of, Llaneurgain, Flintshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Children	1. Ithel "Llwyd" ab Ithel "Gam",   b. Abt 1230, of, Tegeingl cantref, Flintshire, Wales ,   d. Aft 1254  (Age 25 years)   2. Ithel "Fychan" ab Ithel "Gam",   b. Abt 1230, of, Mostyn, Chwitffordd, Flintshire, Wales ,   d. Aft 1301  (Age 72 years)
  Last Modified	27 Aug 2002
  Family ID	F100002258	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  LIVING: 1237. PROPERTY: Lord of Mostyn and Llaneurgain. PROPERTY: Lord of Mostyn. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 4 p. 98) REMARKS: In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master. (Research):KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Vaughan's 'Llyfr Achau Robert Vaughan, Peniarth 287' page 225: 199A makes him the son of his grandfather Maredudd, thus omitting the generation of Hên, Ithel "Gam" from the name string. MARRIAGE: Conflict/Error> Darrell Wolcott, "Pedigree of Ednowain Bendew II", generation 3 no. 6: Rhiryd ap Iorwerth ap Madog> accessed 10/8/2012 states "Harl. 1971, 163 cites 'Tibod ferch Rhiryd ap Iorwerth' married 'Ithel Gam ap Maredudd ap Uchdryd'. That Uchdryd occurs in the generation of grandsons of Edwin, and we think he was a same-named son of Uchdryd ap Edwin." Wolcott calls this Ithel "Gam", Ithel Gam Hen which would be the father, not the son, and then inserts an extra generation between Uchdryd and Edwin called Uchdryd.

  
  

• Sources

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