Gronwy "Gôch" ab Elidir "Gôch", arglwydd of Llangathen

Abt 1230 - Aft 1281  (52 years)

• Name	Gronwy "Gôch" ab Elidir "Gôch"   [1]
  Suffix	arglwydd of Llangathen
  Nickname	Gôch
  Born	Abt 1230	of, Llanlâs, Llangathen, Carmarthenshire, Wales
  Christened	{Tribe: Elystan Glodrydd}
  Gender	Male
  Died	Aft 1281
  Person ID	I200008612	My Genealogy
  Last Modified	14 Dec 2007

  
  

  Mother	Jonet ferch Trahaearn,   b. Abt 1230, of, Rhydodyn, Llansawel, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Family ID	F200007218	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Dyddgu ferch Philip,   b. Abt 1270, of, Llywel, Breconshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Children	1. Gruffudd ap Gronwy "Gôch", arglwydd of Llangathen,   b. Abt 1270, of, Llangathen, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Aft 1309  (Age 40 years)   2. Elidir ap Gronwy "Gôch",   b. Abt 1270, of, Llangathen, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown   3. Llywelyn ap Gronwy "Gôch",   b. Abt 1270, of, Llangathen, Carmarthenshire, Wales ,   d. Yes, date unknown
  Last Modified	27 Aug 2002
  Family ID	F200007215	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  MILITARY: Royal Captain in time of Edward I. (Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies - Additions and Corrections 300-1400, 7th List, p. 4 El. G. 50 fn. 3) LIVING: 1281. (Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies 300-1400, vol. 6 p. 403) RESIDENCE: Y Lan Las, Llangathen. (Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies 300-1400, vol. 6 p. 403 fn. 3) PROPERTY: Arglwydd of Llangathen. (Bartrum, Welsh Genealogies 300-1400, vol. 6 p. 403) REMARKS: In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master. (Research):KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 16 calls him "Gronwy goch ab Meilir ab Gwrgev ab Llen ab Kodogan ab Elistan glodrydd". KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> 'British Genealogist' book 1 page 186 and book 6 page F35 insert an extra generation between Gronwy "Goch" and Elidir "Goch" called Elidir "Fychan". KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 6 page F36 gives him as son named Maredudd.

  
  

• Sources

  [S200000328] WG 300-1400 - 7th List, Bartrum, Peter C., (Aberystwyth. Lyfrgell Genedlaethold Cymru / The National Library of Wales. 2002.), FHL 942.9 D2bp supp. 7., p. 4.