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Rhys "Gryg" ap Rhys, Brenin of Cantref Mawr

Male Abt 1170 - 1234  (64 years)


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  • Name Rhys "Gryg" ap Rhys   [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28] 
    Suffix Brenin of Cantref Mawr 
    Nickname Gryg 
    Born Abt 1170  of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened {Tribe: Rhys ap Tewdwr} Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 1234  Dynevor, Llandyfeisant, Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [29, 30] 
    Buried Cathedral of St. David's, Tyddewi, Pembrokeshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location  [31, 32, 33, 34, 35] 
    Person ID I5137  My Genealogy
    Last Modified 12 Dec 2020 

    Father Yr Argllwyd Rhys ap Gruffudd, Brenin of Deheubarth,   b. Abt 1130, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Apr 1197  (Age 67 years) 
    Mother Gwenllian ferch Madog,   b. Abt 1130, of, , Montgomeryshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F100002159  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Ellyw ferch Thomas,   b. Abt 1170, of, Llan-gors, Breconshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Children 
     1. Arddun ferch Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     2. Angharad ferch Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Ellyw ferch Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     4. Rhys "Mechyll" ap Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1244  (Age 44 years)
     5. Iorwerth ap Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Ieuan ap Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, Llanfihangel Cwm-du, Breconshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     7. Gruffudd ap Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     8. Caradog ap Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1200, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     9. Gwenllian "Gethin" ferch Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1230, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     10. Jonet ferch Rhys "Grgy",   b. Abt 1230, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     11. [unknown] ferch Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1230, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     12. Meurig ap Rhys "Gryg",   b. Abt 1230, of, , Carmarthenshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 26 Jul 2005 
    Family ID F4243  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Joan [de Clare],   b. Abt 1170, of, , Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 1219  [36, 37] 
    Last Modified 14 Jun 2005 
    Family ID F4263  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • EPITHET: "Gryg" (the Hoarse).

      TITLES: Accession> to Cantref Mawr in 1204. (Fryde, Handbook of British Chronology, p. 53)

      PROPERTY: Lord of Llanymdoferi. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 3 p. 58)
      PROPERTY: Lord of Llandovery. (Evans, British Genealogist, book 8 p. H75)
      REMARKS: The term King can be misleading. In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Brenin' meaning chief or high one, and 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master.

      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 43 calls him Rhys "Gryg" ap Maredudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evan's 'British Genealogist' book 1 pages 107 and 259, and book 2 page B43 call him Rhys "Grug" ap Gruffudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 8 page H77 gives him a daughter Gwenllian who married Gruffudd ap Elidir ab Owain. Her mother is undetermined. This marriage link seem improbable as Gruffudd is about 1130 and Gwenllian about 1200.
    • EPITHET: "Gryg" (the Hoarse).

      TITLES: Accession> to Cantref Mawr in 1204. (Fryde, Handbook of British Chronology, p. 53)

      PROPERTY: Lord of Llanymdoferi. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 3 p. 58)
      PROPERTY: Lord of Llandovery. (Evans, British Genealogist, book 8 p. H75)
      REMARKS: The term King can be misleading. In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Brenin' meaning chief or high one, and 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master.

      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 43 calls him Rhys "Gryg" ap Maredudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evan's 'British Genealogist' book 1 pages 107 and 259, and book 2 page B43 call him Rhys "Grug" ap Gruffudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 8 page H77 gives him a daughter Gwenllian who married Gruffudd ap Elidir ab Owain. Her mother is undetermined. This marriage link seem improbable as Gruffudd is about 1130 and Gwenllian about 1200.
    • EPITHET: "Gryg" (the Hoarse).

      TITLES: Accession> to Cantref Mawr in 1204. (Fryde, Handbook of British Chronology, p. 53)

      PROPERTY: Lord of Llanymdoferi. (Lloyd, History of the Princes, the Lords Marcher and the Ancient Nobility of Powys Fadog, vol. 3 p. 58)
      PROPERTY: Lord of Llandovery. (Evans, British Genealogist, book 8 p. H75)
      REMARKS: The term King can be misleading. In Wales till the middle of the 12th century individuals were styled 'Brenin' meaning chief or high one, and 'Arglwydd' meaning lord or master.

      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Dwnn's 'Heraldic Visitations of Wales' volume 2 page 43 calls him Rhys "Gryg" ap Maredudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evan's 'British Genealogist' book 1 pages 107 and 259, and book 2 page B43 call him Rhys "Grug" ap Gruffudd ap Rhys ap Tewdwr.
      (Research) KINSHIP: Conflict/Error> Evans' 'British Genealogist' book 8 page H77 gives him a daughter Gwenllian who married Gruffudd ap Elidir ab Owain. Her mother is undetermined. This marriage link seem improbable as Gruffudd is about 1130 and Gwenllian about 1200.

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